My Rebuttal to “Transactional Marriage”
Tony Woodlief began a series August 26 called the Transactional Marriage. he has three parts done so far.
I don’t even know where to start with this except to say that I whole heartedly disagree. Sometimes things can sound very spiritual without being necessarily biblical.
Now, y’all have figured out by now that I am a pretty radical Christian, right? Good.
Anyway, I disagree because I think he is missing the point…His basic premise, over and over again is that women should not have to be good in bed. They shouldn’t worry about whether or not they have a good technique..and if your wife is not sharing her body with you, guys, then you just need to suck it up and put on your big boy underoos.Take a cold shower first.
He believes that the end all, beat all is not, should not be, whether you have sex or not..and then he says..”I don’t think a wife should concern herself at all with whether she is good in bed. The very concept is pagan. Nowhere in the Bible will you find a woman after God’s heart being instructed to improve her technique.”
Ooops. I disagree with that. Has he never read Esther?
Tony, Tony, Tony…exactly what do you think Esther was learning in the Harem all those months? Do you think she went in to the King and pleased him because of how brilliant a conversationalist she was? Umm..I don’t think so. She was cleansed, went through beauty treatments, and…then… It was all about technique…walk, talk, and kegels. She wore what the eunich told her to wear because she needed to look HOT. I guarantee she did not walk into the Kings bedroom in sweatpants and curlers.ANd we know she did not walk in empty handed. She fully intended to have sex with the King and to have the best technique in the castle. We don’t know what she took in except that she took what the eunich told her to..but he knew the king, h e was in charge of the harem, he heard the gossip..he knew what the king was partial to. Maybe he sent her in in a french maid outfit? Who knows…it worked and that is all that matters.
One of the problems with Christian marriages today is exactly that sex has been torn from the sacred and stuffed into a box marked “Flesh, unholy but neccessary”. Somehow we have decided that God puts His hands over His eyes and says, “O.k… I know you are gonna do it eventually..get it over with I will come back when you are finished”. We have bought the lie that Christian sex is something that women, NICE women don’t enjoy, and they just do because it gets them what they want from their husbands.And nice Christian men enjoy it but only because it is part of their animal nature.
Uh..no..Done right it is pretty much the best thing this side of Heaven. I like it.
Here is more of what he says…
“Men, what your wives give you in the bedroom is more than good enough, and if you aren’t happy with it then the problem is in you, in your soul. No amount of Victoria’s Secret on her part is going to fix that. You are after a physical experience in which she is playing a supporting role. My deepest regret and heartache is that I didn’t learn that sooner in my own marriage.”
HELLO? Does anyone else see the women put up with it men are beasts mentality in that statement? What your wives give you?
I like to seduce my husband, I like to wear items that will make his eyes bug out. It is one of the blessings that God has given couples in marriage..to enjoy it. At the same time I like him to wear stuff that will make my eyes bug out. Boring, unimaginative sex does not make me feel loved..it makes me feel serviced.
I am not playing a supporting role…Marc is not after a physical experience…You cannot separate the physical and spiritual experience of sex without creating something God never meant it to be. It is an equal role for each of us…doing it by yourself is not nearly so much fun…and it is the melding of the physical, spiritual, and emotional that creates great married sex.
God knew that we need emotional connection, that we need physcial release, that we need a spiritual bonding. That is why it says in scripture not to withhold from one another except for an agreed upon time.
I do not think that lack of good, imaginative sex should make a spouse get involved in infidelity. I do think that infidelity is an shared issue because we become one when we get married…and having had to deal with periods of celibacy in my marriage I can tell you that it definitely causes me to stumble when that happens. If I fall I fall on my own..but I believe that Marc is as responsible as I am for my stumbles.
Whether you are the husband or the wife, you are the only sexual partner your spouse is allowed to have. It is the one thing that is not available anywhere else. Tony talks about sacrificial love as being willing to accept whatever lukewarm sexual act a spouse throws at you but that goes two ways..sometimes sacrificial love means to give of yourself, sacrificially, whether you really feel like it or not. Sometimes it means stepping out of your comfortable box.
Lights out, shades drawn, 10 point list of what is o.k. and what is not….Friday nights after 10 p.m. only and only for 23 minutes, no more.
The truth is that marriage takes two people each giving all they have and not holding anything back.
To say that marriage should not be transactional sounds very spiritual however it is not. Any relationship has foundational responsibilities attached. Even our relationship with Christ is not without responsibilities. We cannot just give Him what we feel like. I believe He states in Revelations just how much being lukewarm disgusts Him? Why would it be any different in marriage?
No, we do not love based on what we expect to get back, but just as faith without works is dead, love without works is also not really love at all. It is convenience.
Image:Morguefile
Tags: Communication, conflict, give and take, marriage, rolesPOSTED IN: Take Action
6 opinions for My Rebuttal to “Transactional Marriage”
Ginger
Sep 2, 2008 at 12:39 am
Long ago I heard a person say if you want to have a good marriage pray to have a servant’s heart.
Her idea sounded good. If both man and woman enter in the marriage desiring to bless the other to the full extent of their ability it would seem that all problems would be able to be worked out and much blessing would occur.
I still like that idea. It is not transactional. It follows Christ’s selfless ideal. It requires getting to know each other well enough to know what blesses without having to be told repeatedly. Since both parties are doing this, both are being blessed while selflessly giving. Yes, it’s an ideal, but I think it could be a workable ideal especially the longer you are together.
Marye Audet
Sep 2, 2008 at 8:26 am
Ginger,
I agree that selfless love is a major part of marriage. However, I do not agree with the author’s view that it is somehow less holy for couples to want more from their sex lives than 15 minutes of groping in the dark.
Sex is an important part of marriage and when that is off in an otherwise good marriage it can be devastating.
Fern R
Sep 3, 2008 at 12:27 am
I’ve written out and subsequently deleted half a dozen responses to Woodlief’s ideas about sex within marriage. I guess I am too dumbfounded by the idea that anyone would suggest that their desire to be intimate with their spouse is somehow indicative of a problem with their soul.
I can’t comprehend how someone could really think such a thing. In Judaism, there is no comparable idea. Refusal to have sex with your spouse is actually one of the “valid” reasons to seek a religious divorce in traditional Judaism. It’s considered a good thing to make love on the Sabbath!
I’ll say it again…I’m totally dumbfounded that someone could equate desire for your spouse with a flaw in your soul. Sickened really. Sex with your spouse is a holy act. I feel sorry for any man who listens to Woodlief. And for that matter, for any woman. How sad to miss out on a wonderful way to connect with your husband because you never bothered to learn a trick or two that makes sex pleasurable for you.
Marye Audet
Sep 3, 2008 at 1:16 am
Thanks Fern..
You probably should have written my post becuase you said everythign i wanted to but…so..much..better.
Like you I was dumbfounded. And then I remembered how many teachings on this very thing i have heard over the years.
sigh.
Marc Audet
Sep 4, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Kid,
I don’t even want to look at this poor misguided soul’s article. Just the excerpts posted here leave me to believe he has more misunderstanding with God’s love as well as Christ’s love for the church (His Bride).
Has Tony got one of those politically correct bibles that edits out the book Song of Solomon/ Song of Songs? There God reveals a model of How sex in a marriage isn’t self sacrificing or just something we have to put up with. Yes there are other things revealed by The Spirit there, but That is the most obvious. I have definitely had problems in the same areas as him, but I am delivered from that. THANK GOD!
Sorry it has taken me a couple of days to get to this. You know how my last couple days have been.
Marye Audet
Sep 4, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I do know. I love you tons.
Have an opinion? Leave a comment: